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The document aims to set out clearly and fairly all the relevant arguments, on both sides, so that people can consider them and let us know their views.
The issues involved in any legislation would be complex, and I know that there are some strong feelings about the subject. It has been made clear in Parliament, for example, that many London taxi drivers would like to be able to declare their vehicles as "non-smoking". Of course, the issue goes beyond London and other points of view have also been expressed. That is why we felt it only right to consult, so that all concerned could have their say.
I look forward to receiving views on the various issues raised in this consultation document. My Ministerial colleagues and I will consider very carefully all the responses we receive.
Keith Hill
(i) Enforcement by the taxi driver. Should the driver have the right to eject the passenger from the taxi? But what if the passenger refuses to leave? It would raise important issues of principle to legislate to give taxi drivers the right to use force against a passenger. And in practical terms, who is to decide what is reasonable force? Is the offence of smoking so serious as to justify a right to use force?(ii) Enforcement by the police. Alternatively, the legislation could give the taxi driver the right to drive to a police station, where police officers could take action. But that would raise difficult issues of principle in passengers being detained against their will in a taxi, and driven off in a direction which might be quite different from their desired destination. (What if a passenger is taken ill while so detained?)
(iii) Evidence. In both cases, there seems likely to be a problem of evidence. It would be very easy for smokers to throw out of the window the cigarette they have been smoking, for example on the journey to a police station. The issue is very likely to come down to the passenger's word against the taxi driver's. Will the police and the Crown Prosecution Service find it easy to take forward prosecutions on that basis? Will the courts find it easy to convict? Is there a risk of the law falling into disrepute because of the difficulty of enforcing it?
(iv) Safety. If the taxi driver is given the right to eject a passenger, there may be issues of safety, even if the passenger leaves the taxi without the use of force. What if the passenger is a young woman, going home late at night, possibly inebriated, who is turned out of a taxi in a lonely spot far from home? What if the passenger is elderly or disabled? Such people could well be at risk in such circumstances. If the law were to require the taxi driver to behave reasonably, how is reasonableness to be judged? If the abandoned passenger is then mugged, or otherwise attacked, could he or she hold the taxi driver legally responsible? If the taxi driver takes the passenger to the police, are they to be responsible for getting the passenger home? At whose expense?
There may also be issues of driver safety. A passenger who is told to leave a taxi might become violent and attack the driver, even if the driver has not used force, or even threatened to do so. Will drivers be willing to run such a risk? The risk might be all the greater if there are several passengers.
(v) Fares. A smaller point, but what obligation to pay a fare will there be in such circumstances? If the journey is terminated before the destination, should the passenger be obliged to pay the fare for the distance covered? What are the practical chances of the driver being able to collect it? If the passenger is driven to a police station, would the passenger have to pay the fare?
Q1. Should there be any legislation at all? Or would it be best to make no change, maintaining the present voluntary approach?Q2. If you believe that there should be legislation, what are your reasons?
Q3. Are you aware of any evidence that the voluntary approach is not working?
Q4. If you have answered 'yes' to question 3, can you give details?
Q5. If you believe that there should be legislation, should the new law provide for a blanket ban on smoking in taxis? (See paragraph 12)
Q6. If you have answered 'yes' to question 5, what are your reasons?
Q7. If you believe that there should be legislation, but have answered 'no' to question 5, do you agree with option 1 (a ban on smoking at any time in a taxi designated by the driver as non-smoking)? (See paragraphs 15-18)
Q8. If you have answered 'yes' to question 7, what are your reasons?
Q9. Whether or not you agree with option 1, what are your views on the issues raised in paragraphs 15 and 16:
(i) should smoking in a non-smoking taxi be a criminal offence?(ii) what considerations should be taken into account with regard to the safety of passengers?
(iii) how could problems of a lack of evidence (if, say, the passenger has thrown the cigarette out of the window and denies having smoked) be overcome?
(iv) should the driver of a non-smoking taxi have the right to eject any passenger who starts smoking and refuses to stop?
(v) what should the driver do if such passengers refuse to get out of the taxi? Should the driver be entitled to use force?
(vi) should the driver have the legal right to summon a constable to eject the passenger?
(vii) should the driver have the legal right to drive to a police station so that the police will deal with the offending passenger?
(viii) if the passenger has been driven to a police station, what fare would the passenger be required to pay?
(ix) if the police do not take action, should the passenger have any right of redress?
Q.10 If you do not agree with option 1, what are your reasons?
Q.11 Do you agree with option 2, which would give the driver the right to refuse a smoker at the point of hiring but would have to rely on a voluntary approach once the journey had begun? (See paragraphs 19-21)
Q.12 If you have answered 'yes' to question 11, why do you favour this option?
Q.13 Would you prefer another solution apart from those considered in this paper (including retaining the present voluntary approach)? If so, what?
Q.14 Do you consider that the taxi proprietor who is not the driver should have any say in whether his or her vehicle is designated 'non-smoking? Or should the decision be solely for the driver, whether or not he or she is the proprietor? (See paragraph 13)
Q15. Do you consider that the long-standing principle of 'compellability' should be modified? (See paragraphs 5 and 22-24)
Q.16 Do you have any other comments to make on 'compellability'?
Q.17 How would a non-smoking taxi best be signed as such? (See paragraph 25)
Q.18 How should the designation of a taxi as non-smoking be arranged for drivers who share a taxi and work shifts when one of them wants to ban smoking and another does not?
Q.19 Should there be a sanction against a taxi driver who smokes in a non-smoking vehicle? If so, what?
Q.20 How can a driver of a non-smoking PHV be protected against someone who starts smoking during a journey? (See paragraphs 28 and 29)
John Hampton Esq
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by e-mail to TAXIS@detr.gsi.gov.uk.
ANNEX A
ADSS, Social Services Department AEEU Age Concern England ARP Over 50 ASH Association for Non Smokers' Rights Association of Chief Police Officers Association of Community Health Councils for England and Wales Association of County Councils Association of Justices' Chief Executives Association of London Government Association of Magisterial Officers Association of Metropolitan Authorities British Heart Foundation British Hospitality Association British Incoming Tour Operators' Association British Lung Foundation British Medical Association British Tourist Authority Cancer Research Campaign Central London Partnership Citygate Westminster Commission for Racial Equality Computer Cab Co. Ltd Coronary Prevention Group Council for Travel and Tourism Criminal Policy Division, Lord Chancellor's Department Crown Prosecution Service Disabled Persons Transport Advisory Committee Elite Car & Chauffeur Services English Tourism Council Fawcett Society Federation of PHVs Federation of Small Businesses FOREST General Medical Council GLAD Head of Health & Environment, G.M.B. HQ Health and Safety Executive Help The Aged House of Commons Health Committee Justices' Clerks Society Licensed Taxi Drivers' Association Licensing Review LJ Wedding Cars Local Government Association London Cab Drivers' Club Ltd London First London Private Hire Car Association Ltd London Taxi Board London Tourist Board Medical Research Council Medical Women's International Association Mothers' Union National Association of Health Authorities & Trusts National Association of Taxi and Private Hire Licensing and Enforcement Officers National Asthma Campaign National Council for Civil Liberties National Private Hire Association National Society for Clean Air National Taxi Association Private Hire & Courier Private Hire Board Private Hire Car Association Public Carriage Office QUIT Radio Taxis Royal Association for Disability & Rehabilitation Royal Society of Health Taxi Newspaper The Chief Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate, Inner London Magistrates' Courts Service The Consumers' Association The London Taxi Times The Magistrates' Association The Suzy Lamplugh Trust Tobacco Maunfacturers' Association Trades Union Congress Transmode Management Services Transport and General Workers Union UNISON Welsh Local Government Association Women's Health Women's National Commission Women's Nationwide Cancer Control Campaign
ANNEX B
Continue with voluntary ban
Make smoking in a non-smoking taxi a criminal offence
Change the law on 'compellability'
Ministers are considering giving cabbies the legal power to make their cars cigarette-free.
Pressure for a ban has grown among London's black cab drivers, but new legislation could be imposed across England and Wales. Smokers would face a fine or jail.
Transport Minister Keith Hill announced talks with cabbies and passengers yesterday.
Shadow transport chief Bernard Jenkin said: "It's typical nanny- state Blairism." Simon Clarke, of smokers' pressure group FOREST, said: "It's over the top."
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